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Allegations of thousands dead, monks dumped in jungle October 1, 2007

Posted by elizabethwong in Current Affairs, Democracy, Human Rights, International, Note2Self, Politics.
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Unable to verify to date, but London’s Evening Standard reports:-

Burma: Thousands dead in the massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle
01.10.07

Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma’s ruling junta has revealed.

The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: ‘Many more people have been killed in recent days than you’ve heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand.’

Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

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Hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle

Reports from other exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply ‘ disappeared’ as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.

Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.

There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.

Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.

There, troops abandoned religious beliefs, propped their rifles against statues of Buddha and began cooking meals on stoves set up in shrines.

In stark contrast, the streets of Rangoon and Mandalay – centres of the attempted saffron revolution last week – were virtually deserted yesterday.

A Swedish diplomat who visited Burma during the protests said last night that in her opinion the revolution has failed.

Liselotte Agerlid, who is now in Thailand, said that the Burmese people now face possibly decades of repression. ‘The Burma revolt is over,’ she added.

‘The military regime won and a new generation has been violently repressed and violently denied democracy. The people in the street were young people, monks and civilians who were not participating during the 1988 revolt.

‘Now the military has cracked down the revolt, and the result may very well be that the regime will enjoy another 20 years of silence, ruling by fear.’

Mrs Agerlid said Rangoon is heavily guarded by soldiers.

‘There are extremely high numbers of soldiers in Rangoon’s streets,’ she added. ‘Anyone can see it is absolutely impossible for any demonstration to gather, or for anyone to do anything.

‘People are scared and the general assessment is that the fight is over. We were informed from one of the largest embassies in Burma that 40 monks in the Insein prison were beaten to death today and subsequently burned.’

The diplomat also said that three monasteries were raided yesterday afternoon and are now totally abandoned. At his border hideout last night, 42-year-old Mr Win said he hopes to cross into Thailand and seek asylum at the Norwegian Embassy.

The 42-year-old chief of military intelligence in Rangoon’s northern region, added: ‘I decided to desert when I was ordered to raid two monasteries and force several hundred monks onto trucks.

‘They were to be killed and their bodies dumped deep inside the jungle. I refused to participate in this.’

With his teenage son, he made his escape from Rangoon, leaving behind his wife and two other sons.

He had no fears for their safety because his brother is a powerful general who, he believes, will defend the family.

Mr Win’s defection will raise a faint hope among tens of thousands of Burmese who have fled to villages along the Thai border.

They will feel others in the army may follow him and turn on their ageing leaders, Senior General Than Shwe and his deputy, Vice Senior General Maung Aye.

UN special envoy Ibrahim Gambari is still trying to set up a meeting with General Shwe.

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1. daredevil8 - October 1, 2007

extremely sadden by this…………………………………..

2. monsterball - October 1, 2007

As cruel as one can be in modern days and especially from a Buddhist country…I don’t think this is true.Perhaps thousands have fled the country. Lets wait for UN Ibrahim Gambari report.

3. Ian - October 1, 2007

Further evidence of on going brutality at the following link http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070928135616.htm

4. wits0 - October 1, 2007

UN Ibrahim Gambari used to faithfully serve another repressive regime in Nigeria.

5. Moses Foo - October 1, 2007

Elizabeth,

Hati kecil saya mengharapkan ia hanyalah khabar angin, namun seringkali angin memang membawa khabar yang benar dan mengerunkan…

Apakah manusia sudah kehilangan jiwanya? Walaupun ini bukan kali pertama perkara sebegini berlaku namun kenapa ia berlaku. The Killing Fields sudah kembali.

6. Pseudo-Polymath » Blog Archive » Morning Highlights - October 1, 2007

[…] Allegations of genocidal horror reported by Elizabeth Wong. […]

7. hasilox - October 1, 2007

What the f@ck is the UN doing? I would call it an UNITED NONSENSE, nothing less.

I hate war but what other option is available? Rather than having generations of killings and extreme poverty, why not get over with it a military action?

8. wits0 - October 2, 2007

The UN is a body serving the consensus of (rogue nations and banana republics)dish water nations. It’s the international temple of the “multiculturalists'” political-correctness dedicated to the death of any morally decisive actions. While the innocent world slept the trasnformation took place after the Korean War and and many people are stuck on to it as an embedded superstition that it’s indispenable.

9. wits0 - October 2, 2007
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11. giovamar - October 2, 2007

Incredible in 2007!
Hoping in a UN intervention..

12. wits0 - October 2, 2007

The UN and its nonsense(as usual).

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/articles/ad.asp?blurb=85

q/
“Professor Ibrahim Gambari, who some people claim is an intelligent man, used his ‘intelligence’ to defend the draconain policies of the Abacha regime while he was Nigeria’s Permanent Representative at the United Nations. He was one of Abacha’s equivalents of the “goebel” representing the infamous dictator with a vigor and a propensity that could only be found in fascist Italy of old. He was once quoted as saying, “Nigerians don’t need democracy because democracy is not food. It is not their priority now.” As more pressure mounted on the Abacha regime from all corners of the world, Professor Gambari became more notorious and ruthless in defending and deflecting attacks against Abacha dictatorship.” u/q

13. sofiairdina - October 2, 2007

United Nation? There is no good reason to protect in burma. There is no huge oil reserve. Just human lives. In some places it come dirt cheap. So cheap that most are not even in the statistic.

Gen Than Shwe knows that no one will come.

We hope that the killing is not true but even if we discounted 90% of it, it is still mind boggling. Power is so intoxicating.

14. kittykat46 - October 2, 2007

Its becoming clear that thousands of Burmese people are missing. There’s no way of knowing what happened to them.

There are photograpsh surfacing of soldiers firing automatic weapons directly into crowds of thousands at the peak of the crackdown. How many do you think died ?

Thanks wits0, for the link. I’ve been hunting around for independent sources of news on Burma.

15. Bengbeng - October 2, 2007

i weep for all those killed, injured and those those who had their hopes and spirits quelled and crushed

16. wits0 - October 2, 2007

“Gen Than Shwe knows that no one will come.”

He’s also cunningly clever enough, e.g., not to act aggressively wrt neighboring countries like what the infernal Khmer Rouge did with Vietnam. While the rest of the world won’t do anything about Kampuchea under the Khmer Rouge, it was Vietnam that finally, quickly and effectively delivered the regime change. Previously in history, Uganda’s Idi Amin was dethroned by the invasion by neighboring African countries.

While the West Pakistani army was committing genocide in East Pakistan in the early seventies, it was the India under Indira Gandhi who stopped that.

China, India and ArseSeen countries have their own economic interests in Burma. If the UN can allow the Rwanda genocide and gets away scot-free with it(UN has no accountability per se, in its make-up), Burma is of little concern and a smaller matter.

The world is drunk with the political correctness and moral equivalence of non-interference and the UN is just a front for such entrenched hypocrisy. One of the greater guff and idiocy was that “Constructive Engagement” BS and its past pushing for the membership into ArseSeen. Absolute lack of moral clarity from the start. So much for “Eastern Values”!

17. jerrywho - October 2, 2007

Bush not sending in the troops?

18. bamboo river - October 3, 2007

jerrywho….Bush cannot send troops….China is WATCHING!

19. wits0 - October 3, 2007
20. whispering9 - October 3, 2007

I didn’t comment on this affair earlier because I was sickened by the horrible and senseless killings. Of late, I have been thinking of the sheepdog and a thousand lambs. A single dog, possibly twos, can exert total control on the herd despite the fact that a well planned stampede by the lambs will easily crushed the dogs and the farmer. But the sheep is lame and the chicken always come back to roost in the evening. If they were goats and rams, the story might be different. Sometimes war appears to be the only solution to peace…some said it should be the carrot and the stick approach. Simply, one starts a war and another offers incentives to end it. What happened in Burma must not be allowed to happen in Malaysia. Perhaps, another tool to end military rule is to allow a free and greedy market to develop…just let all the generals and their lieutenants (not just a few inner circle cronies) enjoy vested economical interests to the extent they become wary of conflicts and accompanying economical loses. We can always separate the grains from the stalks when the time is right.

21. sam - October 3, 2007

Shall we tell Bush that , Senior General Than Shwe and his deputy, Vice Senior General Maung Aye are plotting a terror act to ramp a Proton Saga, packed with CNY firecrackers, to the main gate of the White House?

22. wits0 - October 3, 2007
23. wits0 - October 3, 2007

“Where have all the Buddhists gone?
Long time passing

Where have all the Peaceniks gone?
Long time ago

Where have all the young monks gone?
Gone to graveyards everyone

When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/where_have_all_the_peaceniks_g.html


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