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Judicial Jigsaw October 6, 2007

Posted by elizabethwong in Current Affairs, Democracy, Human Rights, Malaysia, Note2Self, Politics.
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Thanks to Malaysiakini‘s hard work for reassembling this jigsaw, the least that the Anti-Corruption Agency should do is investigate it, not gun for the messengers and whistleblower.



1. max - October 6, 2007

Everybody knows the judges in this country are under the beck and call of the Gov. It explains why sometimes they talk nonsense, make decisions that look stupid, corrupted and are bigger sharks than the lawyers themselves. Their degrees are given not earned. All bcos of NEP. They exist solely for UMNO. Not for the rights of the people. Not for democracy. To me, they should all live in Paya Mengkuang. Together with all UMNOputras and puteries, and the hogs, swines and pigs. Roasted suckling pig has suddenly become my favourite dish. They are behaving like Nazis. They think they are superior but yet they feel inferior. Always begging for contracts. Hogging university places. They hide behind their religion when they corrupt, when they are immoral. They are the LOWEST specie of the human race.

2. First Among Equals - October 6, 2007

Max: “Their degrees are not earned. All bcos of NEP”

Yes, these people are genetically flawed with IQs below 70. The NEP is for the mentally weak and retarded, is indefensible and should be done away with asap.

3. oA - October 7, 2007


What can be expected from umno – united moron national organization?

How fitting thy name for idiots hell bend on propagating garbage and taking thus to be the norm – standard protocol leading all to the vision 2020.

Wonder if they are attempting to redefine the word “conscience” – mercy screwing the rest.

note : no insult intended to good malays.


4. CALL999 - October 7, 2007

RE: Ah, Steve Shim got so fast, Tan Sri Chong waited for a whole year to get Tan Sri-ship…….

I heard it like this : Ah, Steve Shim got so fast, Tan Sri Chong waited FOUR WHOLE YEAR(S) to get Tan Sri-ship.

5. monsterball - October 7, 2007

Not all judges max. get it very clear. That’s why Bar Council is trying to weed out the corrupted few and we must support them.
It’s like the taxis and police..few dirty ones are spoiling the good names of the majority.
But we Malaysians must be brave and daring to speak out and even go on a protest march to expose them.
I wonder how many Malaysians do visit blogs. They can read and judge all by themselves. by voting time..we will know the real truths.

6. woody - October 7, 2007

As far as anyone can remember ,our judiciary system was dead after 1988 firing of Tun Salleh by Mahathir.

Root cause is Mahathir started it and everyone bought into it in the name of stability and social harmony. But it is far from truth even after almost 20 years.

The damage is permanent and almost no way to reverse it because the whole system was so badly infested like termite and only to a big fire can wipe it out.

Note: I do not use “Tun” or “Dr” or “Sri” for that low down human. Because he raped our justice system and only equal to a child rapist or molester. Because criminal do not deserve any title.

7. kittykat46 - October 8, 2007

How to pervert the Judiciary 101.

The issue goes beyond the CJ and a few Senior Judges.

The Judiciary’s culture has similarities to any large organisation – the top guys have a major influence on the overall tone of the setup.

Once you have a general belief that you get rewarded by currying favour with the political regime, or on the negative side, if you don’t toe the line, you get put in the freezer, that’s how the rot will spread through the judiciary.

8. siesta - October 8, 2007

i dun think the damage is permanent..its up to the new generation to go up against these old stinking old with their narrow and corrupt mind in the parliment who half of them might not even know wut blog is..jeesshh.

i like partly what “dr M” have painted to the nation not all his stroke are good but i guess he done his part, its not a one man’s fault.

9. Jonah - October 8, 2007

“Not all judges max. get it very clear. That’s why Bar Council is trying to weed out the corrupted few and we must support them.”




10. Moses Foo - October 8, 2007

If I’m not mistaken, is is Raja of Perlis, not Sultan of Perlis.

11. whispering9 - October 8, 2007

I can’t resist but have to comment what’s on my mind. I don’t think there can be a perfectly fair judiciary ever, especially, when the whole system of judges and lawyers is based on fees and patronage. Anyone with connections and moneys can pay for the best of the best illustrious lawyers to solicit fairness, even in a hopeless case. I don’t think TDM corrupted the judiciary system, at best; he only exploited the tendency within to be swayed. If we want a fairer judiciary system, the law fraternity must openly denounce all political and business affiliations. A fair judiciary system before TDM ‘started it’ is a myth. Tun S tainted his own fairness and impairtiality by being related to Tengku R which allowed TDM to step into the picture effortlessly. Effort to return fairness nowadays had me whistling the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLe9pJSRas0 . We can always try. In the end, fairness belongs to the ordinary people who seek them without having to pay sterlings…not lawyers or judges. Thanks for that link, witsO.

12. wits0 - October 8, 2007

KK46: “The Judiciary’s culture has similarities to any large organisation – the top guys have a major influence on the overall tone of the setup.”

Yep, but the present state is one when it has burst its seams.

13. monsterball - October 8, 2007

siesta and whispering9 have indirectly said Mahathir is not the root cause of all injustices done…and whisper9 seems to say Tun Salleh was bad luck related to Tunku Razaleigh? What type of logic is that to protect Mahathir’s evil and dictatorial deeds?
Yes…Everyone knows not all 22 yeaers by Mahathir are not bad…who does not know that…. and surely he did not work alone.
But put all the twenty years and tally the total result…good and bad…what is the end result? How can one pick few years to protect his goodness? Surely a con man needs to please at times to do bigger con job?
He was the P.M…a wellknown daring smart one too. So all his chosen men……surely he had….but can those people dictate terms to him…or follow his instructions….including Judges…and Police IGP?
It seems when the country nearly went bankcrupt…he panicked and turn to Diam…and Diam made the about turn to save his hides. Why…any smart businessman can make the turn about…..as biggest advantage always there…oil and EPF funds…plus spend spend spend to create activities…profits and so the turnabout was successful..what so smart about that? The point is …we nearly went bankcrupt when we were a filthy rich country… under Mahathir,
Then under his 22 years…are we not seeing Malays being split to the extreme by him?
It’s evil and crookedness flowing in his blood….that our beloved Papa Malaysia…Tunku Abdul Rahman saw in him and voters did not take heed. Do you know how many companies went bankcrupt …under Mahathir?
Do you know all foreign banks were ready to give up Malaysia under his 22 years…WHY?
All these are signs of his dictatorial…corrupted and evilness for chosen few…yet we say he did good? Sure..Twin Tower…WOW…are we all not proud of it…..hahahahahaha…that’s the genius of that TDM….make you happy and he gets the hundreds of millions into his relatives accounts without you all knowing it…and happy too!!!…hahahahahaha.. By the way..the UMNO is also his…old one dead!!
When come another to be PM in Malaysia?

14. siesta - October 9, 2007

you know…technically when we are in a sinking ship causes by an iceberg..(not as bad as titanic yet)..wut are all the people should do? i think we should try to find all means possible for a solution to save everyone including the ship..not stop and kick the iceberg hoping everything can change..cause we are where we are now.

15. monsterball - October 9, 2007

Yes siesta..Lets hope people are more educated and can think for themselves for the good of the country.
As for me…I am old and I have said and done enough.
Let you all youngsters…and go pave your future with your votes wisely.
We are where we because most are below par level intelligence voters….just vote with serious thoughts for e country.

16. kittykat46 - October 9, 2007

Did we ever have a perfectly independent judiciary ? Maybe not, but the 1988 removal of Tun Salleh Abbas and several other senior judges was a watershed event, and things went rapidly downhill from then on.
After that the Judiciary was essentially “reporting” to the Executive, instead of being separate and equal pillars of the nation’s institutions.

Previously, Datuk Harun and also Mokhtar Hashim were tried and found guilty by courts in spite of their strong political support.

The final straw , as far as Mahathir was concerned, was the February 1988 deregistration of UMNO by the Kuala Lumpur High Court. Tun Salleh Abbas was not involved in that case, but it was in line with the judiciary’s relative independence at the time.

Mahathir was absolutely incensed – how dare the Judiciary challenge him and his plans , the Great Mahathir ?

By May 1988, Tun Salleh Abbas had been fired.

17. Jonah - October 9, 2007

Kittykat46, the banning of Umno turned out to be a blessing in disguise for Mahathir. Although it sounds conniving, I’d think that Mahathir couldn’t have planned it that way: It was Sri Ram, who was then representing Umno in the case, who suggested to the court that Umno would be deemed an illegal society under the Societies Act. The court accepted his argument. Umno was deregistered. It has never been clear whether Sri Ram and Mahathir anticipated such a court ruling which gave Mahathir the opportunity to form Umno Baru and get rid of Razaleigh and his gang. I’d think Mahathir didn’t scheme it because everyone, including Sri Ram, was shocked by the court’s ruling. Sri Ram, of course, was later elevated to the Court of Appeal by none other than Eusoff Chin. Coincidence? Truth can be stranger than fiction. I used to bum into Sri Ram when he was in private practice but I never had the temerity to ask him whether he had planned it that way. Since he became a judge, I’ve never got a chance to see him; not that I’m yearning to.

18. whispering9 - October 9, 2007

Surprisingly, TDM argument for removing the absolute power of the then federal court was “…the courts have decided that in enforcing the law they are bound by their interpretations…”

Had the previous judiciary not illegalized UMNO, Malaysia history will be totally different; for the better or worse. They started their own downfall by bounding justices to interpretations and not common sense. Is it any different today? To me, nothing has changed much, then and now, when it come to ordinary critizens’ justice. Since Merdeka, we are already on downward spiralling, just waiting for the right PM to apply the brakes.

I do not fear an army of lions, if they are led by a lamb.
I do fear an army of sheep, if they are led by a lion.”
– Alexander the Great

19. puzzle - October 9, 2007

Malaysiakini did a good job here in fixing up the puzzle. Bravo.

20. Confused - October 9, 2007

How come K Singh so quiet nowadays?

21. monsterball - October 9, 2007

Jonah and all…We are seekers of truths and truths are based on facts and not hearsay.
The fact is under Mahathir…UMNO became.defunct….no more. Fact is he formed UMNO Baru. No need to presume this or that. It’s right there …biggest bail outs…..greatest corruptions from all sectors….malays are all split up….more than ever….all big projects interests him for big commissions….smart ways to kil two birds with one stone…people are happy…he is happy….such is the master of con jobs.
Fact is …he was and still is the smartest PM we ever had…now go check where the smart of him went to…..for the country or for himself and chosen few.
Now go on…base on facts and don’t give any benefits of doubts. We are talking about our country….why need to beat around the bush.
With that…you can see that person’s character clearly.

22. wits0 - October 9, 2007

“Since Merdeka, we are already on downward spiralling, just waiting for the right PM to apply the brakes.”

Can one such really emerge under the same atrophy of commonsense and top end cavalier mindset enabled blindly by the weak minded?

23. whispering9 - October 10, 2007

IMHO, nope! Not before hearing the THUD! at the end of the atrophy. That is why, I prefer to whistle. Despite the good great blogs, I think it is too little too late. I like to rewrite this old song with permission that is…

And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more.
People talking without speaking,
People hearing without listening,
People writing blogs that voices never share
And no one dare
Disturb the sound of silence.

Cheer. Have a nice day. Smile, laugh… don’t let the plan(s) spoil your journey.

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