The paper trail vanishes March 18, 2008
Posted by elizabethwong in "We can do better", Current Affairs, Democracy, Human Rights, Malaysia, Politics.Tags: ADUN, Exco, Kedah, Penang, Selangor
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C’mon guys. All paperwork, even of MPs and ADUNs (state assemblymen), should be transferred over and there should be a proper transition. Like when an office has new staff coming in or after a company takeover. How about itsy-bit of professionalism here?
Here’s hoping that the incoming Selangor exco won’t be facing the same problems. Does it mean no paperwork = no proof = contract/agreements null and void? Wow, a clean slate 😀
Kedah official papers missing
Monday, 17 March 2008All documents from the offices of the Mentri Besar and executive councillors in Kedah have gone missing.The PAS-led government which took office after 12th general election on March 8 will lodge a police report based on the findings of an internal investigation.
Mentri Besar Azizan Abdul Razak has appointed state executive councillor Phahrolrazi Zawawi to investigate the case of the missing documents.
“Phahrolrazi will investigate what happened.
“I do not want to accuse people without proof,” said Azizan who found that the Mentri Besar’s office was void of documents after the swearing-in ceremony last Sunday.
The newly appointed executive councillors, who were sworn in on Wednesday, found out the next day that their offices were also empty.
“There is not a single paper left in all the offices. We view this very seriously because the documents belong to the executive council, not to any individual,” said Phahrolrazi.
He said most of the documents were classified.
“We are questioning the government officers on duty. No one has a right to transfer the documents without permission,” he said.
Phahrolrazi said the former executive councillors did not have the right to enter the offices without permission.
“We need the minutes of the meetings to check the progress of projects and other matters that were discussed at the executive council meetings,” he said. – THE STAR
Penang excos start work in ‘bare’ offices
Bernard Cheah and Opalyn MokPENANG (March 17, 2008): The new state executive councillors (excos) started their first week in office to govern with a clean sheet, literally.
They found their offices cleared of all government documents and minutes of the previous Barisan Nasional (BN) government. All records of projects, completed or current, approved by the previous government are missing.
Health, Welfare and Caring Society Committee chairman Phee Boon Poh said: “The action taken by the previous excos have hindered our work.”
“They (the previous exco) claim the documents are ‘personal property’ and cleared the offices,” he told reporters.
The new line-up would have to get copies of the documents from the state secretary’s office.
“We have the resources to track down these documents. They (state secretary office) would still have copies of whatever ‘approval’ documents. If the documents are not approved yet, they still have to come back to the exco for approval,” he said.
Public Works, Utilities and Transport Committee chairman Lim Hock Seng said “we have to start from scratch”.
“We will have to go and get copies from various department heads on previous projects,” he said.
Phee said the previous exco members did not follow the conduct of former Chief Minister Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon who has been a gentleman all the way.
“If they (the previous exco) really loved the people, they should not have used such obstructions to try and stop us,” said Phee.
In Alor Star, the PAS-led Kedah government also found all documents in the offices of the Mentri Besar and excos missing when they took office after the 12th General Election on March 8.
Mentri Besar Azizan Abdul Razak has appointed state executive councillor Phahrolrazi Zawawi to probe the case of “missing government documents”.
He also said a police report will be lodged after the “internal probe”. – THE SUN
Cemerlang, Gemilang & Terbilang, they say… Ha! Ha! Ha!
There is a saying in Malay, ‘Sudah pecah tembelang’!. Now we know what they have been doing in silent in the last 50 years!
Hahaha, the thing is – they exMPs and ADUNs never thought they would be losing their jobs, so they never prepared a handover file. Hope you and the BR will demand the handover quickly before files are shredded and go missing. Enlist the help of the BAR or lawyers to find ways to stop them from shredding files.
That’s the BN’s way of tidying up their own mess – just grab all the incriminating evidence and give it a mass burial. By this action alone they have incriminated themselves and should never again be allowed to hold public office. Sooner or later, karma resolves all issues – and in these days of compressed time, I guarantee it won’t take forever 🙂
These are the born losers
Never learn to be humble in defeat
Taking out documents deem personal
This isn’t the way democracy works
As a rule and gentleman
The outgoing person should brief his counter-part
Be a true gentleman in defeat
Clear it out with the in-coming executive councilor
No misunderstanding; no miscommunication
Why simple procedures these defeated leaders never follow?
Telling others while on the stage
When it is their turn, they never could do it
The people should reject these leaders at all costs
Never allow them to return again
It is better to say goodbye
What more will the people find?
In time many will cream the lines
As the opposing coalition governments search and review
The story buries in years past may come to haunt BN
Now the people should understand
I stumbled upon some comments saying… it is only polite to clean the office (until not a single paper and dust are found) for the incoming exco mahhh…~~
Does this issue also occurs in Selangor.
I have advised friends in Kedah govt to look into the use of OSA in this case. Most of this documents have probably been classified under OSA – to avoid public from knowing their corrupted practices. The new govt can now use the OSA to push these corrupted BNs to hand over the documents or face the OSA. surely in both ways it will disclose the corruption …
Vote BN out again in the next GE.
They are probably ashamed of their “unwritten” minutes as well, i guess all they did was “chit-chat”. “quoted” from Q&A with Nazri Aziz…
Q: If you just take into account what is printed in the media and what comes out in the blogs, it would appear that there is a crisis in the judiciary.
Nazri: To me, if there were no newspapers, if there were no blogs, then it’s just mere chit-chat in the coffeeshop. That’s all.
Does it mean no paperwork = no proof = contract/agreements null and void? Wow, a clean slate
YES YES YES can claim land back from LDP and eject them out! if they wanna sue – sue their owners BN-Umno cause nothing to do with new Selangor MB and parties…..! Yahoooo FREE TOLLS cause no paperwork to proof!
Just nail those responsible without mercy…… NO MERCY!!! bring them to court….
Government documents missing or shreded by UNMO is a serious offense and an illegal act……by anyone…be it UMNO or anyone. Not one word from PM at all. Hope the law will be just and fair this time.
But then…..UMNO can do or say any and everything that others cannot..
It’s like part of Malaysia….being taken over my an enemy force..and not replacing a government by another….through the wishes of the voters. It Is also clear…that UMNO treats those voters…opposing them are not important. I
Only a party with plenty to hide will do that.
When PAS won Kelantan….did UMNO did same thing? I guess not.. The UMNO …28 years ago..was totally different from the time… Mahathir took over.
So glad .we have a strong opposition….showing the true colours of UMNO.
it is not going to be easy but if you can do something about this… the people will love you.
Perhaps, this is where the FOI (Freedom of Information) act is really needed!
hah! how come so pandai at cleaning paper trail but cannot be bothered to remove election campaign materials that are still flapping like ‘ham choi’ along road sides and whatnots? very shameful isn’t it?
Hi,
What the former MB,ADUN ,as reported in the media,had done would not affect the access of the official documents,such as Minutes of the exco meetings,matters discussed at the exco ,and etc.,by the incoming State Government.
The state secretary has all of them.
Hope the new MBs and ADUNs can concentrate on the duties of their respective portfolio;allow rakyat to contribute sincere and constructive comments via internet or normal letter box; Provide true and transparent reports on the achievement of the various portfolio (hopefully ,on yearly basis and similar to those public listed Co. reports).
We do not expect flawless State Government,but as long as the MBs
and ADUNs stay clear of corruption,cronyism,nepotism and of course
arrogance,we,the ordinary people,will definitely continue to support
them in the next GE.
Even in defeat, they still find ways to lie, cheat and steal. Next thing you know, it’s all “standard procedure” or “state policy”…
Read this in exhibition hall of a popular temple in Jenjarom. Something like.. “earn the best merit by removing the traces of fear and sorrow”. Some people are trying to earn merits by removing traces/files that causes fear and sorrow in some people. EW, how’s that for a positive perpective of such events?
Either the buggers are seriously deficient mentally or they have so much to cover up that they had to take ALL the paperwork. Surely the jokers has a better way to cover up than to go this route. Imagine the type of crooks that has been holed up in all the govt offices all these years.
… to plunder the land, u need the NEP as a front and the OSA to stop people from prying….
Hi,
I read with great disappointment that the blogs posted by some bloggers that the victory of the BA was their own.Especially,the PPK of Malaysian-Today, who specially posted a blog to thank the blog visitors for the votes changed.How naive!!
Though,I do not dispute the fact that,the bloggers have an important part to play in the 2008GE,but with due respect,only a small percentage of the rural and urban voters own a computer .
Hope my dear intelligent,learned bloggers could go down to the silent
majority (perhaps approximately in the 80 percentile group of the voters), namely the hawkers,rural folks,urban ghettoes dwellers,petty traders and etc and conduct a survey on :1.reasons for their chaged of voting pattern;2.whether their blogs have any impact or influence them on their votes;3.whether they understood what are the current issues such as inflation,unequal distribution of wealth; West Port scandal;Hindraf and Bersih rallies.I am very interested to know what are their replies.Any bloggers want to take,up the challenge and personally or engage a Research co.(RI ,AC Nelson or others) to coduct the survey?
Though I am a bit more educated and owned a computer,I consider myself as one of the silent majority.
My personal view is that the future Government should pay more attention on the day-to-day living of the ordinary people by re-educating some of the civil servants on their mindset that they are the humble servants and not the TYRRANT MASTERS!
I do not expect immediate changes on such a long and deep-rooted almighty behaviour of some civil servants ,but ,I expect a sub-commitee to be set up at both the council as well as state level
to study and recommend to remove all the by-laws, deemed outdated and/or unfair. to the ordinary people,
If invited,I will like to volunteer my service as ‘member of public’.
Congratulations to Ms. Elizabeth Wong 4 your win at N.37 Bukit Lanjan.
Unfortunately, I’m saddened to read the article by ‘budak Malaysia’ who seems to bad mouth the outgoing incumbent Datin Paduka Yong Dai Ying.
Question to ‘budak malaysia’:
1. Have you spoken to her about your grouses or misgivings about the things you said about her?
2. What has she don’t to you that makes you attack her so viciously?
Comments to you: (1) LDP toll is a Federal Project n not a State/DUN project…ask the Works Ministry about it.
(2) Billboards ask the local council about it – MBPJ chairman.
(3) Which land misappropriation you talking about and cronies? (do you have the fact and prove). Don’t just shoot your mouth. Be responsible and accountable for what you say.
(4) Dont hidden behind nicknames and uses Aunty Elie to bear the blunt of your words. It’s very unkind and selfish from you.
(5) Be a man or a woman: Talk the talk and Walk the talk.
(6) If you are a resident in N.37 what part have you play in making life better at Bukit Lanjan besides condemning and staying silent (coffee talk) by the sidelines? Have you offered your services to those in need or air your grouses through the proper channel (met Datin Paduka Yong Dai Ying at her service center during her tenure)? If not, why you didnt do it?
People tend to forget about the good work of a person but remember easily small or minute mistakes. If you still have rubbish to throw at her, please do so by contacting me at 0163956183 to fixed an appointment to see her. She would much like to meet with you and have lunch/dinner/tea or coffee with you.
Thank you for your time.
Hidup BN! Hidup Gerakan!
Vincent Ho,
Special Assistant to Datin Paduka Yong Dai Ying.
Cemerlang, Gemilang, Terbilang dan Dokumen Hilang.
Take the attitude that no payments will be made on any contracts without complete paper work and you will find everyting surfacing. Even the cronies will tell on their mentors and lordships of the previous administrations as they will have to now pay up suppliers. Hmm..nice one!
Well actually this can be either brilliant, or stupid…
Brilliant as in, you can’t charge them with any of their misconducts, and also the new gov will be in a mess, a scenario of which the “opposition parties” happy to see.
Stupid as in, the ex-excos will be really in trouble if they can’t spit out those documents. But who knoes, our Malaysian Legislation is virtually hopeless…
Wow eli, malaysia kini said u’re gonna be in exco wo~
Congrates~
first of all congratulation for winning the seat in the last GE08. now another congratulation for being in the EXCO line-up (as I read in the paper)
Wow…BN is also in for ‘bersih’.
Clean. Nothing left.
It has been my experience both as a member of the public and a former journo, that the Klang Valley MPs and Assemblymen and women who were non-UMNO reps, all worked hard for their constituents.
I make a special mention of names like Datuk Liew Yuen Keong ex- Seri Kembangan, and Tan Sri KS Nijhar (ex-Subang MP).
However, after the huge BN mandate of 2004, Umno fellas took Malaysia as their personal fiefdom and started keris-wielding and other hateful antics.
They don’t like challenge. These were glorified ass-kissers, thugs and loudmouths elevated into Assemblymen and MPs.
They are sore losers, as we can all see now. Now the hiding, scrambling, shredding happens.
Congrats Eli, on your win, and I was told…u are slated for an EXCO appointment too.
Good Luck. Time to put things right!
Dear YB,
Permission to link.
Thanxz.
EW: No probs.
Elizabeth,
I just got an SMS on the swearing in of the new Selangor State Exco – and you are in it !
Congratulations !
Letter written to editor@suarakeadilan.com and also YB E Wong
I refer to the following article and respecfully request that PKR, DSAI and Elizabeth (whom I believe declares herself Christian? If not my apologies) to state PKR’s and DSAI’s stance.
http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/77818
I think it’s an important point, as it clearly defines PKR/DSAI’s stance on Malaysia as a secular state (with Islam as the official religion) versus Malaysia as an Islamic state.
This matter is as important as the PKR’s stance of abolishing NEP – as it either places all Malaysian’s on equal footing in the Courts or the current mess we have with the Revathi, Lina Joy, Body Snatcher’s, etc cases – directionally where is DSAI’s vision of Malaysia taking us?
By the way, I’m not the writer of that letter, not related and do not know this person, but agree that this subject is relevant.
Also, my best wishes to Barisan Rakyat (PKR/DAP/PAS) as you start us on the road of a new, resurgent Malaysia!
Best regards,
Cecilia
PS: Looking forward to YB E Wong’s leadership as the MP in the constituency that she represents and where I live!
Eli, congrats on being the new Selangor Exco! destiny does have its mystery…from human rights fighter on the outside, and now to a position where you could really put in place many of the ideas and thinking you wanted done before. it’s gonna be hardwork, but i trust you’ll live up to it and more! 😉
Any news of the missing documents?
Offer a reward for someone to turn over or give information leading to the discovery of the documents whether in hard copies or in soft copies.
Surely the information must be worth millions if not billions…….
Dear Ms. Eli Wong,
Congratulations for your appointment as Exco… 😀
As far as I know you will be taking charge over Environment affair in Selangor… As a naturalist and biologist… I really hope you could do something to save the Selangor’s environment… and safeguard the patches of remaining nature’s gem… 🙂
wah, eli now is the EXCO liao ohhhh!
i think you never dream of this b4 hohhh?
Congrats !! but … dont forget is time for you
walk u talk now!!!!!
Hi, If the previous leadership does not own up to their responsibility do this
1. ask politely to quit
2. if they do not move kick them out
3. If the person still does not want to quit hire assasin/professional killer and gun him/her down.
Tahniah for being made Exco!
harap boleh tlg hebahkan link blog saya yang baru buat pasal wilayah pembangunan iskandar (WPI) demi kebaikan bersama:
http://wilayahpembangunaniskandar.wordpress.com/
saya baru belajar guna blog-blog ni. kelam kabut lagi. akn diperbaiki di masa akan datang.
terima kasih
Congratulations
for being elected an executive member of the Selangor Council. I am surprised the ladies exceed men in the Council. So youe Chinese name is Keat Ping,
Selangor is the capital of Malaysia. As a matter of fact, as an example, the Council can do “wonders” to show to the other States. If it is dynamic with the right people in the various committees, to show and prove to the others, the map of Malaysia in that case will be ENTIRELY different. You can learn much from the south, Singapore, all the good points and habits but NOT the bad ones, you know what I mean. I hope your MB will be as aggressively as the people here.
Looking forward to read your activities.
Hi Eli
Congratulation to your appointment as EXCO.
Don’t worry about any misstep. You will be notify pronto of any that you may have taken 😉
Best of regards…
btw…can we develop more park area for local tourism? things like going for a picnic on a weekend holiday, flying frisbee, or watching the ladies pass by 😉
congrats on your appointment into the state exco.
I guess we will be seeing Elizabeth’s photo and works for the Selangor government more often for these few years and may she excel in her work….to be loved and respected for her sincere works……..to win a stronger future election.
Yes….it was good….Khalid chose…his assistants..based on intelligence…experiences and merits…….and it seems…….women will rise to the occasion to……collectively show UMNO men … many things….how to manage a State..without race and religion politics involved.
Off topic sorry, just pimpin’ my arts:
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Eli, pls to stop all the crap!
TQ
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Eli ,
What is this that the the new Selangor MB wants to continue the Dasar Setinggan Sifar and talks about protecting the rights of the landowner more than the housing needs of the peneroka bandar? And also what is this taxing the migrant workers ? Has PKR changed its stand on these issues? What is happening ? Why this betrayal ?
buat ler keje.. hari hari blog..
the country will not run itself!
please dont forget the people still wan the country to keep moving forward.
No point going on a witch hunt..
Dun forget, wat goes round comes round..
In 4-5 years time, if u dun do ur job, later u get accused as well..
1. crime
pj used to be soo peacefull.. now its full of bad guys.
please try ur best..
work with the polis..
and please dun say u increase how many policeman or build how many police station during the next election.
Ppl wan to feel safe to walk in the streets again
New brooms sweep clean
But clean-up took place
To make office look lean
In desperation to save face
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 280308
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
http://msi.Rocky101.com
Fri. 28th March 2008.
There is money hidden in the lost documents?
Find them at all costs.
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